For someone who avoids watching reality TV, Dr Chris Brown is doing a darned good job of hosting I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here! in the South African jungle alongside Julia Morris.
Chris says working on the show – now in its fifth season – is the "cream on top" of his veterinary career. But he can't believe he ended up in the industry at all.
"I wasn't a reality TV person at all," Chris, 40, tells TV WEEK. "And I certainly never thought I'd host a reality TV show."
For Chris, the jungle is different to everything else on TV, and that's what attracted him to the role.
"We're about having a laugh, first and foremost – and, hopefully, giving people [viewers] an escape," he explains.
"No other reality show will just mock the celebrity contestants – and try to bring them down a notch or two!"
It certainly helps that Chris and his co-host Julia get along like a house on fire.
"When I found out Dr Chris was going to be the co-host, I went after it [the role] like a maniac," Julia previously told TV WEEK.
"And, four years later, the feeling was clearly mutual."
"We have a funny connection," Chris reveals of their hilarious banter and close friendship.
I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here airs Monday to Thursday, and Sunday, 7.30pm, 10.